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Postby Goshakar В» 02.03.2019

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Why was the Michael Caine trivia removed?! It was a DMS, a destroyer mine sweeper, not a minesweeper. Hi; In the courtroom scene, Ferrer's wearing a cast. Silly question, did he actually have a busted wing?

I left the bit from Moviemistakes. The whole thing depends on the length of the chain, not how tight a circle a DMS can turn. Somebody at MovieMistakes. I'm hoping maybe someone can straighten it out. From all this -- including the crazy and outlandish statements Queeg made on the stand -- why is it the opinion of everyone that he is NOT incompetent? For the record: in the book, Keith ultimately became Captain of the Cain. Maryk was given command of an LST. The Court-Martial convening authority disapproved the verdict this goes against the principle that a trial verdict can not be impeached and issued them both formal reprimands brazenly proclaiming them guilty.

Out of curiosity, can anyone explain to me what gave the Navy brass whoever it was the authority to revoke a verdict of a general court-martial? Our laws have always held that a verdict can not be impeached. Nevertheless Keefer and Keith manage to restore a degree of friendship. Exile , 9 October UTC. There are significant enough differences between the book and film - a lot could be said on a literary front about the book that has nothing to do with the film.

It would also help with all the "Projects" and templates to separate movies from books. I inserted a piece which was taken out about the quirkiness behind Queeg and the strawberries. Maryk tells the other officers that the mess boys confessed to eating the strawberries, but Queeg refuses to believe their story and instead accuses the officers of having a duplicate key to the food locker. Is this a valid point to bring up? It seems open-and-shut about what happened to the strawberries, but Queeg refuses to accept it.

I'm concerned about WP:NOR - if we can cite someone on this, it would be interesting to add - but I'm concerned there is an unspoken hint at plagiarism. Given how popular CM was, someone must have noted the similarities. This little sally never pretended to be anything but Original Research, and an unpleasant little hint of plagiarism at that it took 57 years after the supposed event for somebody to notice the resemblance.

Are we compelled to keep OR in Talk forever? Seven years now. I hesitate to delete it only in case there's some procedure to follow first which I don't know about.

A trial balloon of OR that never panned out. I propose somebody cut it. Profhum talk , 9 November UTC. Image:Mutiny 0. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template , you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.

Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion.

If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. There is a difference. An innacuracy is when something doesn't accord with reality - with the real facts of the real world. Thus, there's an issue if a boat such as the Caine could really steam in a circle and cut the tow line.

That is a potential if not proven inaccuracy. The age of Queeg is not a fact of the real world. It's something made up for a piece of fiction, a book. In the translation of a book from a film, things get changed, for various reasons -- in this case the age of a character is changed de facto because the actor chosen to play the part is the not age specified in the book.

That is artistic license. The makers of the film chose to alter an aspect of the book in order to make the film they wanted to make. They weighed the value of Humprey Bogart in the part versus the value of keeping the character at 30, and made the artistic choice that the one outweighed the other. That's not inaccuracy, it's artistic license. Now, if in making the film, they had made Queeg a woman, while keeping everything else the same, that would be an inaccuracy, because in the real world women did not captain ships of the U.

Navy in World War II. No it doesn't belong to the script section—it's an innaccuracy, for a very simple reason: In WWII, a 55 year old man would not have command of a minesweeper. And a 55 year old commander would have been cashiered.

But if you want to play games, fine—call it "artistic license" and delude yourselves. Some things are so obvious to anyone with any sense, they cannot be proven.

For instance, prove that the sky is blue. I wrote before, "Some things are so obvious to anyone with any sense. Do people laugh right in your face, or do they wait for you to turn your back? Please answer, I'm honestly curious. Even if he wasn't, as an officer, you go where you're told to go -- as perfectly illustrated by the captain that Queeg replaced the actor, Tom Tully, who played that captain, was The movie, in a roundabout way, supports this.

Halsey was a career Navy man. And at the beginning of WWII, all the branches of service were extremely short manned. As such, officers were assigned where they were needed regardless of their age; and not all the postings were 'ideal' or what the officer expected or wanted again, remember the captain Queeg replaced and that captain's attitude as shown in the movie.

So, to me, all this yada-yada debate about age and what someone of that age is in command of is pointless blathering. Those with rank were NOT youngsters! The following text was posted on my talk page. I'm moving it here as the best place for the discussion to take place:. Hi, In the Plot section of The Caine Mutiny film , you've taken out my contributions on the grounds that "There is no textual evidence that Maryk is 'prepared to forgive and forget'" and that "Keefer's motivations are not made clear in the film".

When Keefer thanks him at the celebrations for not revealing his double-cross Maryk does say that the matter is "over and done with" and later tries to dissuade Greenwald from revealing Keefer's treachery with "Let's forget it, Barney". That strikes me as "evidence" enough. What do you need: a written statement by the actors, producers and director? Also, Greenwald points out that "From the start, [Keefer] hated the Navy", as in it interfered with his writing.

In the tow-line incident Queeg does state: "There will be no more novel-writing on the Caine". I think this describes some of Keefer's motivations, which were based on pure selfishness. Granted, Keefer does not make a full confession of his own, but the point of many great works of fiction, from the novel to the cinema, is that it is up to the reader and the audience to try and interpret a character's motivation and pass this on to others who are still a little puzzled by it.

With your permission, I'll restore my contributions. My response is below. As for Keefer's motivations, Greenwald speculates on them, but I do not see any real support for the speculation. Besides this one opinion from a character who's disgusted by what these officers did, there's no neutral source which pins down Keefer's motivations. Your interpretations are plainly POV, and there is disagreement about them. As contested facts, you can reinsert them once you have a reliable source to support them.

You dismiss my views as POV, but unless you or someone else can come up with better explanations for Maryk's attitude towards Keefer and Keefer's motives, I do not see why mine are not valid enough.

If there are better explanations for their behaviour I'll accept them, but short of that I cannot find anything better than the ones I have suggested above. You're the third editor with whom I have been in conflict with this week.

It's taking all the fun out of Wikipedia which I always thought was about people contributing to the knowledge of others or trying to find common ground, not taking it out completely. The plot summary doesn't mention the story's critical turning point, probably because most viewers are so intent on hating Queeg the name itself is hateable that they don't see it.

It occurs during Queeg's initial meeting with the ship's officers, after the "Do it my way and we'll get along" suggestion. Queeg is aware he has trouble with command, and asks, almost directly, for help in running the ship. I don't remember the exact dialog. He's given the cold shoulder, because the officers have already decided they don't like him, and don't want to cooperate. This is the real mutiny, not Maryk's later assumption of command.

The officers have forgotten they're fighting a war, and there are things far more important than whether they like their commanding officer. There is also the question of why the ship is named Caine. I have my opinions, but they would be OR.

The parenthetical that Navy stewards during World War II were generally, if not exclusively, black, and later generally Filipino, is technically correct, but is it relevant to this movie?

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Out of curiosity, can anyone explain to me what gave the Navy brass whoever it was the authority to revoke a verdict of a general court-martial? Archived from the original on 29 June Centpacrr talk14 April UTC. That's not inaccuracy, it's artistic license.

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